Esta innovación es maravillosa!! Saltar las barreras en igualdad de condicones para todos ,poder promover los territorios desde una posición de verdad muy novedosa .
Suerte para ésta idea y exitos!!
DEsde Uruguay.
Lady Rodriguez
Many thanks for sharing your comments and believing in our project, it has given us a lot of motivation and confidence for the future.
We agree completely on the two points you mentioned and surely are important subjects to consider for the future of the project: the resources needed and the availability of technology in the place
Regarding resources needed, the scenario where a big company who believes in the project's philosophy invest in the project will likely accelerate the implementation and its global impact. But since this not always happen and is difficult to predict, so far we have been doing it step by step trying to select and focus our work in the areas that bring the maximum benefit to the project. This requires hard thinking and sometimes to follow your mind instead of your heart to ensure that we're spending our few resources in the correct feature. Funds will be helpful for sure, but if it is not possible to advance with the project as a whole from the beginning, we'll start with part of it, step by step like we've done so far. I agree though, that as the project grows, it might reach very soon a point where it'll be unmanageable by a small team of two.
Regarding technology requirements inherent to the project, it is true that a lot of areas don't have access to technology and are still far from having it and therefore this will be a barrier for people to access the project in those areas. But it's being a lot of effort from many non-profit organizations and social programs that have already arrived in some areas and are reducing this gap. Wikiloc Community Maps could be a thing to do with this technology once one IT point has arrived to the area, adding value to this technology and effort. It's another option to put that IT investment to work. People would have another option/choice to use their IT facilities: to collaboratively map their territory and connect with a global audience. Wikiloc has the characteristic that connects both virtual and real world, this might be an added source of interest compared with other 100% virtual online communities.
In the other side, there are tourist destinations who have an internet access point but the speed is usually a problem. That could be solved creating a kind of base system that allows people to work offline, reducing the weight of online data or the period to transfer it. We know of several uses of the project from 'access points' like schools, internet cafés, libraries and public sector facilities. Initiatives to create a Community Map could be started even by government agencies or coordinators in the initial phase when the basic tourist services are still in development, even when people living in that area don't have access to the net yet.
On July 1, 2009 the judges reviewed the entries for the Changemakers “Geotourism Challenge 2009: Power of Place Sustaining the Future of Destinations” competition and would like to pass on the following feedback (listed below) for your entry. Thank you for applying and for your hard work in the field. We are excited to archive your entry to serve as a leading solution for the worldwide community of innovators. If possible, please take the time to respond to some of the provocative questions and issues that were raised by the judges. We wish you continued luck with your innovative, sustainable, and socially impactful initiatives.
All the best, The Changemakers Team.
“Interesting! Allowing local communities to create their own maps could be a great form of community ownership. This could be the next generation of connecting travelers and tourist’s minds in a positive way to the spaces they care about. However, this type of program needs quite a lot of funding because mapping and user-generated content like this is not an easy field to fill. While there are other ways of this type of communication, no other site allows for your own updates in the way that this project is proposing. It is kind of like The Facebook of wanting to know how to travel and keeping your own map and travels. Everyone is looking for marketing opportunities and a space for them to move forward either for a project or a business, could this be a program that would get bought up by a big company and implemented? As with any social media site, it is difficult to gain the necessary revenue from a site like this.”
“This project is innovative because it speaks to an audience with proficient technology skills. However, this also means that the social impact on the community is limited to where the technology is the on the ground. There are concerns about how to include areas with less technology. Whether it can create real social impact for the local communities where the trails run depends in part on speed of internet spread to rural areas. For the tourist it has significant potential with the right investment and partnerships.”
“Wikiloc is the 2.0 of guides. Its potential for large scale innovation is clear. We all like sharing maps of place where you have been and you are more likely to protect a space that you connect with. As an educational tool this is a fantastic project, there are just complicated barriers surrounding the availability of technology. Georeferenced maps developed as a wiki and hopefully supported locally. I'm continually amazed how many computer savvy folks there are out there who will put huge amounts of time into their pet enthusiasms. Perhaps this will be one of those hobby sites loved by its users. There have been similar pilots that this project might want to team up with. When I worked for The Nature Conservancy - China program, we used to have a similar project called "photo monitoring". I would suggest investigating into what they do.”
- Changemakers “Geotourism Challenge 2009: Power of Place Sustaining the Future of Destinations” Judges: National Geographic Society, United Nations Foundation, Tribe Wanted, The Green Belt Movement, Lonely Planet, Southwest
On another note, we've found really interesting to discover what The Nature Conservancy is doing, it immediately raises a will to discover new places and the activities that are taken place there. We like to think that Wikiloc might be a complementary tool to help promote all these projects. We see endless possibilities and we're excited to become part of it.
Again, many thanks for sharing your opinions with us
la telefonía móvil avanza día a día y ya son muchos los dispositivos cuentan con GPS y con la posibilidad de exportar el archivo del track (thc magic, iphone, nokias....).
la ventaja de estos aparatos es que también disponen de conexión a internet via 3G (o wifi) con lo que las posibilidades continuan...
WikiLoc is absolutely fantastic! None above, none beside! I use it a lot when travelling to other parts of the world - looking for nice hikes in the actual area. I also contribute myself with hikes I want to recommend to other nature lovers.
hola, esta web es lo mejor que he visto para los amantes de la naturaleza. te guste ira a pie, en bici, a caballo o como quieras comparte tus rutas o utiliza las de otros usuarios para descubir paisajes y rutas increibles.
Felicidades y gracias por hacernos tan facil poder disfutar de nuestra naturaleza.......
Es un placer y en agradecimiento a Wikiloc por la posibilidad de disponer de esta potente herramienta que tanto nos enriquece técnicamente (aunque estoy empezando pues llevo sólo tres meses...).
Saludos senderistas
Juan J. Carrasco
Quiero expresar mis mas profundo agradecimiento a Wikiloc. Lo uso para los viajes por la montaña en bici. Magnífico para publicar, compartir y descargar recorridos en los diferentes formatos que publica para GPS.
Se ha convertido en una herramienta imprescindible para mis salidas en MTB.
Es muy fácil de usar y la idea de compartir recorridos e información entre usuarios es genial!!
Llevo ya unas cuantos tracks bajados y subidos de esta pagina y cualquier cosa que sirva para apoyar el trabajo de gente, que como Jordi, emplea su tiempo y dedicacion para que otros usuarios menos habiles podamos planificarnos las salidas montañeras, se merece un reconocimiento. Un aplauso y agradecerte el esfuerzo que debe de llevarte mantener una web tan especial como esa. Gracias Jordi y suerte para el futuro.
Mi agradecimiento y felicitación por esta magnífica idea, y por el perfecto trabajo realizado para su implementación. Wikiloc permite compartir, de un modo realmente práctico, amigable, sencillo e intuitivo, la experiencia y el conocimiento entre las personas que disfrutamos del contacto con la naturaleza.
Felicidades por vuestro merecido reconocimiento !!!
Wikiloc is a great site to share and find tracks in a very easy way. It is a must visit site when setting up any adventure travel or experience. Real congratulations for the guy who build that site.
hello
Greetings to all interested and the creative
I have many ideas useful for all people derived from nature and help the nature .I want of economic decision-makers and owners of capital to manufacture and marketing and advertising
the water
ideas to maintain the water
ideas to bring drinking water from nature
ideas to take the advantage from the user water
Energy
The exploitation of wind energy in the home and farm
The exploitation of solar energy in the home and farm
Exploitation of human energy
I have ideas in the invention and manufacture of machine
That make the owner will be free and happy and reduce costs in everyday life
This machine helps the owner in the availability of money
And for this machine many features and functions needed for every home and every human being seeks to liberate the needs
Parts of this machine is available in the market by 80 percent
I want to sell these ideas after the translation from Arabic into English
I want every one needs to be free own, especially energy and water and rationalization to maintain them and he learn how to preserve them Forever
i am Teacher has more than 20 years
I am a tourist guide i am speaking a little English and I work guide in the desert and I can walk in the desert and the help of this GPS
I want to make the tourism the title of the world peace
and This is the travel and tourism company hfilk@yahoo.com www.Smraaljanoob.com
[EN] we're very happy after all the positive feedback we've got from your comments here and by personal emails. I would just like to say a big thanks to you all. We'll do our best to continue improving the project. Thanks!
[ES] unicamente agradecer todo el soporte y animo recibidos tanto en comentarios aqui como por email. Haremos lo posible para continuar mejorando el proyecto. Gracias!
[CA] tansols agraïr el suport i missatges d'ànim rebuts tant en forma de comentaris aqui a la web de Changemakers com per email. Farem el possible per continuar millorant el projecte. Moltes gràcies!
I have many ideas useful for all people derived from nature and help the nature .I want of economic decision-makers and owners of capital to manufacture and marketing and advertising
the water
ideas to maintain the water
ideas to bring drinking water from nature
ideas to take the advantage from the user water
Energy
The exploitation of wind energy in the home and farm
The exploitation of solar energy in the home and farm
Exploitation of human energy
I have ideas in the invention and manufacture of machine
That make the owner will be free and happy and reduce costs in everyday life
This machine helps the owner in the availability of money
And for this machine many features and functions needed for every home and every human being seeks to liberate the needs
Parts of this machine is available in the market by 80 percent
I want to sell these ideas after the translation from Arabic into English
I want every one needs to be free own, especially energy and water and rationalization to maintain them and he learn how to preserve them Forever
i am Teacher has more than 20 years
I am a tourist guide i am speaking a little English and I work guide in the desert and I can walk in the desert and the help of this GPS
I want to make the tourism the title of the world peace
and This is the travel and tourism company
Mí apoyo y agradecimiento a Wikiloc por poner a nuestra disposición esta herramienta con la que podemos compartir el mundo.
Adelante y suerte.
Saludos a todo el equipo Wikiloc y a todo el mundo que lo hace posible con sus aportaciones.
Chinty
My friend /Mr Jordi L. Ramot
Founder
Wikiloc changemakers
all congratulations to you on the occasion of winning in the contest challenge and change you deserve all the merit you have my full appreciation
Congratulations to Changemakers for this selection, and to Wikiloc for their superb work. User-generated content can be so much richer than "seller" content, and the way Wikiloc has designed their site makes it very easy to cross-check with tools like Wikipedia and Panoramio. I see this site as a leader in the future of individual travel: the printed travel book can't come close to the currency afforded by these kinds of web tools.
A judge's comment questioned whether this is too dependent on technology that may not be widely available. This may be true for the people living in some of the "path" locations, but don't forget that the people VISITING the locations are putting up the paths and adding content, so it actually provides content where none might otherwise be available at all. The users of Wikiloc can both contribute to and use the results; the people within the area covered can win either way.
Comentarios
Esta innovación es maravillosa!! Saltar las barreras en igualdad de condicones para todos ,poder promover los territorios desde una posición de verdad muy novedosa .
Suerte para ésta idea y exitos!!
DEsde Uruguay.
Lady Rodriguez
www.biouruguay.org
http://bio-uruguay.blogspot.com
Many thanks for sharing your comments and believing in our project, it has given us a lot of motivation and confidence for the future.
We agree completely on the two points you mentioned and surely are important subjects to consider for the future of the project: the resources needed and the availability of technology in the place
Regarding resources needed, the scenario where a big company who believes in the project's philosophy invest in the project will likely accelerate the implementation and its global impact. But since this not always happen and is difficult to predict, so far we have been doing it step by step trying to select and focus our work in the areas that bring the maximum benefit to the project. This requires hard thinking and sometimes to follow your mind instead of your heart to ensure that we're spending our few resources in the correct feature. Funds will be helpful for sure, but if it is not possible to advance with the project as a whole from the beginning, we'll start with part of it, step by step like we've done so far. I agree though, that as the project grows, it might reach very soon a point where it'll be unmanageable by a small team of two.
(continue in next reply)
Regarding technology requirements inherent to the project, it is true that a lot of areas don't have access to technology and are still far from having it and therefore this will be a barrier for people to access the project in those areas. But it's being a lot of effort from many non-profit organizations and social programs that have already arrived in some areas and are reducing this gap. Wikiloc Community Maps could be a thing to do with this technology once one IT point has arrived to the area, adding value to this technology and effort. It's another option to put that IT investment to work. People would have another option/choice to use their IT facilities: to collaboratively map their territory and connect with a global audience. Wikiloc has the characteristic that connects both virtual and real world, this might be an added source of interest compared with other 100% virtual online communities.
In the other side, there are tourist destinations who have an internet access point but the speed is usually a problem. That could be solved creating a kind of base system that allows people to work offline, reducing the weight of online data or the period to transfer it. We know of several uses of the project from 'access points' like schools, internet cafés, libraries and public sector facilities. Initiatives to create a Community Map could be started even by government agencies or coordinators in the initial phase when the basic tourist services are still in development, even when people living in that area don't have access to the net yet.
(continue in next reply)
On July 1, 2009 the judges reviewed the entries for the Changemakers “Geotourism Challenge 2009: Power of Place Sustaining the Future of Destinations” competition and would like to pass on the following feedback (listed below) for your entry. Thank you for applying and for your hard work in the field. We are excited to archive your entry to serve as a leading solution for the worldwide community of innovators. If possible, please take the time to respond to some of the provocative questions and issues that were raised by the judges. We wish you continued luck with your innovative, sustainable, and socially impactful initiatives.
All the best, The Changemakers Team.
“Interesting! Allowing local communities to create their own maps could be a great form of community ownership. This could be the next generation of connecting travelers and tourist’s minds in a positive way to the spaces they care about. However, this type of program needs quite a lot of funding because mapping and user-generated content like this is not an easy field to fill. While there are other ways of this type of communication, no other site allows for your own updates in the way that this project is proposing. It is kind of like The Facebook of wanting to know how to travel and keeping your own map and travels. Everyone is looking for marketing opportunities and a space for them to move forward either for a project or a business, could this be a program that would get bought up by a big company and implemented? As with any social media site, it is difficult to gain the necessary revenue from a site like this.”
“This project is innovative because it speaks to an audience with proficient technology skills. However, this also means that the social impact on the community is limited to where the technology is the on the ground. There are concerns about how to include areas with less technology. Whether it can create real social impact for the local communities where the trails run depends in part on speed of internet spread to rural areas. For the tourist it has significant potential with the right investment and partnerships.”
“Wikiloc is the 2.0 of guides. Its potential for large scale innovation is clear. We all like sharing maps of place where you have been and you are more likely to protect a space that you connect with. As an educational tool this is a fantastic project, there are just complicated barriers surrounding the availability of technology. Georeferenced maps developed as a wiki and hopefully supported locally. I'm continually amazed how many computer savvy folks there are out there who will put huge amounts of time into their pet enthusiasms. Perhaps this will be one of those hobby sites loved by its users. There have been similar pilots that this project might want to team up with. When I worked for The Nature Conservancy - China program, we used to have a similar project called "photo monitoring". I would suggest investigating into what they do.”
- Changemakers “Geotourism Challenge 2009: Power of Place Sustaining the Future of Destinations” Judges: National Geographic Society, United Nations Foundation, Tribe Wanted, The Green Belt Movement, Lonely Planet, Southwest
Gracias Lady por este primer comentario sobre el proyecto. Celebro que lo encuentres interesante. Igualmente para su biouruguay.org
Un saludo,
Jordi
On another note, we've found really interesting to discover what The Nature Conservancy is doing, it immediately raises a will to discover new places and the activities that are taken place there. We like to think that Wikiloc might be a complementary tool to help promote all these projects. We see endless possibilities and we're excited to become part of it.
Again, many thanks for sharing your opinions with us
Jordi & Montse
la telefonía móvil avanza día a día y ya son muchos los dispositivos cuentan con GPS y con la posibilidad de exportar el archivo del track (thc magic, iphone, nokias....).
la ventaja de estos aparatos es que también disponen de conexión a internet via 3G (o wifi) con lo que las posibilidades continuan...
next station --- wikiloc en el móvil!
Salut i sort!
Albert.
http://trinxat.com
Força Jordi.
Estamos cá para apoiar o teu Projecto.
Saludos
Parola Gonçalves
WikiLoc is absolutely fantastic! None above, none beside! I use it a lot when travelling to other parts of the world - looking for nice hikes in the actual area. I also contribute myself with hikes I want to recommend to other nature lovers.
Best wishes
Q10 / Grethe
hola, esta web es lo mejor que he visto para los amantes de la naturaleza. te guste ira a pie, en bici, a caballo o como quieras comparte tus rutas o utiliza las de otros usuarios para descubir paisajes y rutas increibles.
Felicidades y gracias por hacernos tan facil poder disfutar de nuestra naturaleza.......
Es un placer y en agradecimiento a Wikiloc por la posibilidad de disponer de esta potente herramienta que tanto nos enriquece técnicamente (aunque estoy empezando pues llevo sólo tres meses...).
Saludos senderistas
Juan J. Carrasco
The best way to know the nature.
simply the best tool to meet people en to be in the nicest nature places all over the world !
Para mi que me gusta " trescar" poe la montaña, es una muy buena y práctica web.
Enhorabuena
Quiero expresar mis mas profundo agradecimiento a Wikiloc. Lo uso para los viajes por la montaña en bici. Magnífico para publicar, compartir y descargar recorridos en los diferentes formatos que publica para GPS.
Se ha convertido en una herramienta imprescindible para mis salidas en MTB.
Es muy fácil de usar y la idea de compartir recorridos e información entre usuarios es genial!!
Gracias a su autor por su esfuerzo y dedicación.
Saludos:
Antonio.
A simple but clever way to use the power of the web.
I'm very pleased that I use this wonderful tool for finding places and trails all over the world.
Greedings from Poland,
Darek
Llevo ya unas cuantos tracks bajados y subidos de esta pagina y cualquier cosa que sirva para apoyar el trabajo de gente, que como Jordi, emplea su tiempo y dedicacion para que otros usuarios menos habiles podamos planificarnos las salidas montañeras, se merece un reconocimiento. Un aplauso y agradecerte el esfuerzo que debe de llevarte mantener una web tan especial como esa. Gracias Jordi y suerte para el futuro.
De vuelta de La Palma, he visto el concurso y espero haber votado correctamente.
Un abrazo y suerte, txapeldun!
unai
Very useful
Mi agradecimiento y felicitación por esta magnífica idea, y por el perfecto trabajo realizado para su implementación. Wikiloc permite compartir, de un modo realmente práctico, amigable, sencillo e intuitivo, la experiencia y el conocimiento entre las personas que disfrutamos del contacto con la naturaleza.
Felicidades por vuestro merecido reconocimiento !!!
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Joan F.
Wikiloc is a great site to share and find tracks in a very easy way. It is a must visit site when setting up any adventure travel or experience. Real congratulations for the guy who build that site.
Joan Serras
jitobcn.blogspot.com
Desde que descubri el mundo del treking, despues de mi compañera, wikilog ha sido un compañero de subidas, grimpadas ... GRACIAS Jordi!!!!!
hello
Greetings to all interested and the creative
I have many ideas useful for all people derived from nature and help the nature .I want of economic decision-makers and owners of capital to manufacture and marketing and advertising
the water
ideas to maintain the water
ideas to bring drinking water from nature
ideas to take the advantage from the user water
Energy
The exploitation of wind energy in the home and farm
The exploitation of solar energy in the home and farm
Exploitation of human energy
I have ideas in the invention and manufacture of machine
That make the owner will be free and happy and reduce costs in everyday life
This machine helps the owner in the availability of money
And for this machine many features and functions needed for every home and every human being seeks to liberate the needs
Parts of this machine is available in the market by 80 percent
I want to sell these ideas after the translation from Arabic into English
I want every one needs to be free own, especially energy and water and rationalization to maintain them and he learn how to preserve them Forever
i am Teacher has more than 20 years
I am a tourist guide i am speaking a little English and I work guide in the desert and I can walk in the desert and the help of this GPS
I want to make the tourism the title of the world peace
and This is the travel and tourism company
hfilk@yahoo.com
www.Smraaljanoob.com
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i am mohamed from libya
hfilk@yahoo.com
www.Smraaljanoob.com
[EN] we're very happy after all the positive feedback we've got from your comments here and by personal emails. I would just like to say a big thanks to you all. We'll do our best to continue improving the project. Thanks!
[ES] unicamente agradecer todo el soporte y animo recibidos tanto en comentarios aqui como por email. Haremos lo posible para continuar mejorando el proyecto. Gracias!
[CA] tansols agraïr el suport i missatges d'ànim rebuts tant en forma de comentaris aqui a la web de Changemakers com per email. Farem el possible per continuar millorant el projecte. Moltes gràcies!
hello dears
These are some of my thoughts
I have many ideas useful for all people derived from nature and help the nature .I want of economic decision-makers and owners of capital to manufacture and marketing and advertising
the water
ideas to maintain the water
ideas to bring drinking water from nature
ideas to take the advantage from the user water
Energy
The exploitation of wind energy in the home and farm
The exploitation of solar energy in the home and farm
Exploitation of human energy
I have ideas in the invention and manufacture of machine
That make the owner will be free and happy and reduce costs in everyday life
This machine helps the owner in the availability of money
And for this machine many features and functions needed for every home and every human being seeks to liberate the needs
Parts of this machine is available in the market by 80 percent
I want to sell these ideas after the translation from Arabic into English
I want every one needs to be free own, especially energy and water and rationalization to maintain them and he learn how to preserve them Forever
i am Teacher has more than 20 years
I am a tourist guide i am speaking a little English and I work guide in the desert and I can walk in the desert and the help of this GPS
I want to make the tourism the title of the world peace
and This is the travel and tourism company
hfilk@yahoo.com
www.Smraaljanoob.com
http://www.panoramio.com/user/1683546
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i am mohamed from libya
hfilk@yahoo.com
www.Smraaljanoob.com
Mí apoyo y agradecimiento a Wikiloc por poner a nuestra disposición esta herramienta con la que podemos compartir el mundo.
Adelante y suerte.
Saludos a todo el equipo Wikiloc y a todo el mundo que lo hace posible con sus aportaciones.
Chinty
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i am mohamed from libya
hfilk@yahoo.com
www.Smraaljanoob.com
My friend /Mr Jordi L. Ramot
Founder
Wikiloc changemakers
all congratulations to you on the occasion of winning in the contest challenge and change you deserve all the merit you have my full appreciation
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i am mohamed from libya
hfilk@yahoo.com
www.Smraaljanoob.com
Congratulations to Changemakers for this selection, and to Wikiloc for their superb work. User-generated content can be so much richer than "seller" content, and the way Wikiloc has designed their site makes it very easy to cross-check with tools like Wikipedia and Panoramio. I see this site as a leader in the future of individual travel: the printed travel book can't come close to the currency afforded by these kinds of web tools.
A judge's comment questioned whether this is too dependent on technology that may not be widely available. This may be true for the people living in some of the "path" locations, but don't forget that the people VISITING the locations are putting up the paths and adding content, so it actually provides content where none might otherwise be available at all. The users of Wikiloc can both contribute to and use the results; the people within the area covered can win either way.
Seems interesting :) I will try to describe my bicycle trips in Poland - along the seaside for example.
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