Discussion about entry: Eco-scientific expeditions for conservation of threatened species: tigers, jaguars and pumas

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Thu, 04/09/2009 - 07:49

Dear Mr koustubhsharma,

Thank you so much for your input, and to recognize the innovative aspect of our initiative. We do not want just to show, but to involve people on the cause. By doing that we believe that people can help beyond a casual interest. 'Tell me and I'll forget, show me and I'll remember, involve me and I'll never forget'. Unfortunately our study area is located in one of the most densely inhabited areas in Brazil (the coast). Not many traditional communities exist here, and certainly none by our base camp and route, even though these are the remotest spots we can reach in the area. In Sumatra, where we plan to replicate the project, having the endangered Sumatran tiger as a flagship species, the situation is different. Traditional communities live inside the national park where we aim to set our base camp. They will be one of the major benficiaries of our initiative.
What we have in Brazil, where the jaguar is our flaship species, are communities with low income, and some of them are extracting the remaining of our Atlantic rainforest, one of the world biodiversity hotspots and where endemism is one of the highest. To illustrate, there are over 400 vascular plants per hectare, 50% of which are endemic, 215 species of mammals 73 of which are endemic; and 183 species of amphibians, 91.8 % endemic.
Thus the problem we have recognized is that of low income, illegal harvesting, and biodiversity loss. Our plan is to legalize those people that are damaging the forest, at the same time raising their income. This will bring the mentioned sense of ownership over the forest. They'll need to protect the forest to ensure the 'açaí' fruit is available for sustainable harvest. They are expected to become allies of those who'd like to maintain the forest and biodiversity for the future. Hope I have explained it better, and thank you once again for your kind input.

Thu, 04/09/2009 - 15:58

Dear Claustin, thank you very much for your comments. It make sense to think that we target students and young professionals, but happens that lay people with days of training can make miracles. Perhaps because we are concentrated on doing that, far away from any external inteference. They submerge in the subject. Most of the travelers are do not have any special education on the subject, and we had ladies over 60 years old walking the trails with us that did much better than young ones. So we have found out that age is not a limitation, nor education.
We are dealing intensively with stakeholders and hire people from the local community. We have spoken on local environmental forums (aside from regional, national and international as mentioned before) to raise awareness on how to improve livehood and at the same time harvest the forest sustainably. This is passed on to small children at public, local schools. Participants of our international expeditions do not speak Portuguese, but their presence is much appreciated by the teachers and by the children. Kids loved to show everything they had produced at school to travelers. Locals begun to appreciate what we say, now they come to tell us where they have found jaguar tracks, who's hunting, and so many other things that locals only share with those they trust. Hope to hear from you again, cheers.

Thu, 04/09/2009 - 16:12

Dear Claustin, thank you very much for your comments. It make sense to think that we target students and young professionals, but happens that lay people with days of training can make miracles. Perhaps because we are concentrated on doing that, far away from any external inteference. They submerge in the subject. Travelers that do not have special education on the subject are minority, and we had ladies over 60 years old walking the trails with us that did much better than young ones. So we have found out that age is not a limitation, nor education.
We are dealing intensively with stakeholders and hire people from the local community. We have spoken on local environmental forums (aside from regional, national and international as mentioned before) to raise awareness on how to improve livehood and at the same time harvest the forest sustainably. This is passed on to small children at public, local schools. Participants of our international expeditions do not speak Portuguese, but their presence is much appreciated by the teachers and by the children. Kids loved to show everything they had produced at school to travelers.
Locals begun to appreciate what we say, now they come to tell us where they have found jaguar tracks, who's hunting, and so many other things that locals only share with those they trust. Hope these clarify your enquiries. Look forward to hear from you again, cheers.

Thu, 04/09/2009 - 16:59

Dear Erica, we could not have found the core areas of animal diversity as we did weren't for the advice of locals. They know where the rarest animals have retreated to, their refuges, where they hide.

About funding, national funding agencies disregard the fact that the forest is heterogeneous and that reforestation is not the same as recovery. We cannot fully recover a rainforest just by planting trees, without the fauna, as both fauna and flora have co-evolved. Animals pollinate, disperse seeds, and consume aggressive seedlings giving room for a higher diversity of plants in the forest floor. We have found in the ground that heterogeneity is the rule, as in many areas the forest is empty of many of the original fauna. Resource-demanding species have agglomerated in few refugia. These refugia must be identified and protected to revert the processes of extinction that is going on, and then perhaps expect that the vanishing fauna may once again recolonize the areas they disappeared from.

Our funding have come from travelers who are willing to learn and share with us. What we mainly need is recognition of our work, and partners for several different tasks. For now, it would be great to find partners that advertise our expedition to a broader audience.

What we are doing to have more people coming: we are launching a land trust project to acquire land and build research stations on them and improve existing base camps. This way we can receive more people, more often, and benefit local researchers with better camps and equipment; and we are improving marketing and networking. Thank you.

Thu, 04/09/2009 - 17:25

Dear Denisa, thank you so much for such positive input. We are not actually the only ones who train people to collect data, but perhaps the only ones that take the data collected to the 'last consequences' for nature conservation. We publish the information collected in a scientific format, and this information has been used for conservation action plans.
As we consider tourists as part of our research group, many of the trails and places that we go have never been explored by us before. We are really searching and learning. We often find the unexpected. Although it may be disconcerting for most tour operators, this is what in many instances true research is about. After a week we had small groups that were able to find new trails by themselves, with the add of navigation equipment.

Groups are usually of ten people or less. About contact with locals, in Brazil travelers are mainly in contact with our cook - always very nice and able to produce wonderful fresh bread and cake. But as I mentioned, we go to many new places and often we have to collect information and interview local people. And we also visit schools to speak with children and local teachers.
During the international expedition (we also have one for Brazilian people, in this case mainly students and professionals participate) the common language is English.
Thank you once again for your comments, and we also hope to receive high rankings. Cheers. Visit our site for more information about our research and expeditions, at www.projeto-puma.org ! Consider joining us one of these days...

Wed, 04/15/2009 - 07:11

We indeed track jaguars and pumas on the ground as a mean to raise information that will help their conservation. Security must be indeed in first place. We have made a detailed risk assessment of our activities, and what are the procedures in each case, and these are exposed to participants before our field activities start. We have found that the highest risk is the travelers’ inobservance of our safety protocols. Unlike broadcasted by hollywood movies, risks in the real world are less dramatic than those associated with attacks of wild animals (anacondas and such..!). The situations of higher risk are river crossing and walking over unstable terrain. The risk of falling and twisting an ankle or a wrist, or worse, hitting the head on a rock are our highest concerns.

The large Brazilian cats avoid contact with humans. The only situation I can imagine that can lead to a confrontation is when a wild animal is seriously injured or impaired, then they’ll not act as they normally would and are more prone to assume risks. I've personally witnessed such a situation when, during the light of the day, a puma attacked a dog in a house yard. During a normal encounter these cats just get away from you. I once crouched near a puma that I was radiotracking, so as not to scare it, but it just walked away. It is so safe that during overnight camps we call jaguars with a jaguar caller in the hope that one will reply and approach. The risk is zero. The statistics reveal that it is much more dangerous to stay in town, particularly large towns, where the violence is ever increasing.

Southern Brazil is safer than other regions of tropical South America in many aspects. This is due to its geographic location. At a lower latitude you still get rainforests, but the heat and the conditions for the development of many diseases are not optimal. The area is thus free of yellow fever, malaria, and cholera. There is an increasing risk, however, of contracting dengue fever in suburban areas near some towns, but not at our study site, and it is not a major risk anyway. Dengue fever has been reported to be more common in the southeast, north and northeast of Brazil. The disease is transmitted by mosquitoes, therefore general anti-mosquito precautions should be taken. In any event, there are many and well equipped health facilities even in relatively small towns and near our study area. Snakes incidents are very uncommon in general, but we recommend that travelers use boots with high shafts. Snake serum are available at local health facilities.

We are extremely cautious about food and water. Food is selected item by item and prepared ‘in house’, and we drink bottled water. In the case someone is mildly ill, we carry a first aid kit with many items, including activated carbon, and antibiotics for the most common bacteria and other infectious organisms that may cause discomfort.

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Sun, 05/03/2009 - 13:00

Dear Robert,

I'm sure North Americans will like our trips. Trekking and outdoor activities are part of the daily life of Americans.

Regarding flight times, it will take from 18 to 20 hours from LA and 13 hours from NY to reach our area in Brazil. I created a page where you can see a sample squedule from these two locations, please look at http://uniplac.net/~puma/Flights.htm. Your enquiry was good, so much that I'll improve that page to provide further samples in the future.

I have commented about the way our project help locals when I replied to Julia in April 6, 2009. I was told to insert those replies into the entry, but has not done it so far, I'm sorry. I must rush ! I appreciate if you be so kind as to look at the comments I mentioned. I'll update the entry as soon as possible. Thanks

Thu, 04/02/2009 - 03:12

Fantastic project: well organized, thorough, & diligent. Delivers a high quality tourist experience with absolutely minimal environmental impact, within the framework of contributory research into endangered species sustainability

Mon, 04/06/2009 - 14:40

Hi Marcelo.

Thanks for joining our Geoturism Competition, and congratulations to your iniciative.

I would like to ask you for more information about the social impact that Projeto Puma generates:

- In terms of numbers, how many people from the community are involved to the conservation cause? How do this people can get involved? That is the financial benefit this initiative generates for local communities?
- How many tourist have already join the Projeto Puma expedition? What are the expectative of tourist per year?

Keep in thought!

Cheers.

Julia Forlani
Changemakers Staff - Brazil

Mon, 04/06/2009 - 18:06

Dear Julia,

Thank you so much for your interest on our initiative. We consider ourselves newcomers to tours and expeditions. We are only three years involved with the project. If you analyse our initiative in terms of scale of both community involvement and in the participation of tourists we'll lag behind. We are willing to grow, but so far we are a small initiative. Our strenght are the inovation of our approach and potential impact of our initiative. I should explain.
As scientists, we first identify what is missing to meet the goals we set, before we start doing things. We do not have tours where people learn about biodiversity, we first identify biodiversity conservation needs and how to deal with it, and then set tours and other solutions to help solve the problem. For example, one of the main causes of biodiversity loss in our area is illegal harvesting of palm heart. It marginalizes people from the community that are struggling to survive,as many are involved. They run risks and suffer a lot. They have to harvest during the night, dragging heavy bunches of palm heart up and down mountains for many kilometers. The environmental police has attempted fruitlessly to stop the illegal harvest. Now, we have identified that the fruit from palm heart 'açaí' may yield a revenue 40 times higher (and legaly) than the palm heart they extract (illegaly). We've been working to bring this notion to the community, something that is practical, not just general awareness. We are trying to bring external resources to help 'açaí' extraction. It is actually a big business, and we need investors in this area to change the community reality. General biodiversity will benefit, as illegal harvesters are also the poachers: Once illegal in one aspect, it is easy to go fully illegal. We are helping to draw environmental polices that to some extent may help to unfold the full potential of community participation at a larger scale.

Thu, 04/09/2009 - 00:31

Brilliant concept, great implementation and impressive follow up. I know of several similar initiatives that attempt to bring together science and tourism, but they usually start and end at the experience that tourists gain during the trip. The fact that your organization takes it a step further and allows the visitors to share authorship in publications is praiseworthy. This not only ensures a lasting impact, but also maintains a long term interest in the subject by the visitors, and certainly does a word of mouth marketing for the program, ensuring sustainability.

However I would like to know more about the involvement of local communities, architecture, field craft and practices in the ongoing program. By adding (if not already) the local traditions aspect into your program, you may also broaden your scope as a large proportion of tourists are usually interested in learning and working on traditional/cultural practices. This also helps obtain a sense of ownership in the local communities, who will then ensure that the species of interest are conserved, as they start seeing their direct stake in it.

Thu, 04/09/2009 - 11:19

Wow, this is such a unique and amazing opportunity for travelers! I am sure there are many out there who would love to be a part of this experience and really have first hand contact with the land and animals while also making a positive impact. The question that asks about partnerships/professional developments, I think you could maybe benefit from being a little more specific on. Your main market is most likely university students or young professionals from 20-35. So perhaps you could specify and show that this has been your main segment so you want to focus on reaching out to these people. I also felt like you could expand on the engagement with locals. You mention that you cross over their land and discuss your work with them and you briefly mentioned something about local schools but I think that could be expanded upon in one or two of the questions. What do they do at these schools? How else are locals involved?

Thu, 04/09/2009 - 15:14

I think it is really interesting that tangible things come from your program. Not only are you trying to conserve wildlife, but the people on your tours go out and write articles that inform the world about the endangered species. I really admire that you watch the animals in their natural habitats while observing their daily lives. The authenticity of your tour sounds absolutely incredible.
I also really like that you have people go into to local schools and communities to interact with the people living there. I think it is just as important to get to know the community and how they go about preserving the wildlife. They might be able to offer interesting insight from an insider's perspective.
My suggestion would be discussing other ways about obtaining funding. It may be hard for people to come because of the cost, especially in this economy. So what would your program be able to do so that the most amount of people can take part in this incredible experience?

Thu, 04/09/2009 - 15:14

I find your project interesting not only because I am personally interested in zoology and endangered species(it is my hobby), but also because your project involves so many activities. I especially enjoyed reading about those activities during which the tourists are personally involved in the conservation, data collection, etc. I consider this as the best way to educate people about the nature and enable them experience what it really takes to conserve it and take proper care of both the flora and fauna. This is the first time I have ever read about tourists being actually members of the team who analyzes the area and its problems and I think it is great.
Could you share few more details about how the tourist experience look like either in Brazil or Indonesia? What other activities are they involved in, how many people there are in one group? Do the visitors get into contact with locals as well, besides the excursion guides?
Also, do the tourists need to speak Portugese?
I really like your entry and mainly your initiative and I hope it will receive high rankings.
Good luck

Wed, 04/15/2009 - 03:17

This is a great idea because it takes the adventure-seeking tourist on an exciting expedition, and at the same time it helps protect endangered animals. The tourists are then able to become, as the organization states, “part of the research crew.” Brazil is home to a wide variety of exotic wildlife, but with each year some species become less and less abundant. This concept is a great way to promote the sustainability of these species of animals in Brazil. I am curious as to the safety of the tourists who participate in this program. They are “searching for pumas, jaguars, tigers, and any other threatened wildlife, in the wild.” What kind of security measures do you take to make sure your participants do not get harmed in any way (whether by animal attack, disease, infection, etc.)? Altogether, I think this is an exciting idea that can be a lot of fun for thrill-seeking tourists and at the same time very helpful for the environment in Brazil.

Mon, 04/27/2009 - 18:51

Dear Mr. Marcelo,

I want to divide my comment in two given constraints in the comments space. Please bear with me.

The AMAZING parts:
“An example of such contribution are the scientific articles that we have produced from the data collected by the participants themselves, published in per-review scientific journals.”
This is a terrific way to engage people. It’s a clear connection with the end itself. Brilliant. Question: Do you still keep in touch with people after they leave? That’s a way to continue demonstrating your efforts and spread the word. Social networking through Internet nowadays is tremendous. Check http://www.sheldrickwildlifetrust.org/ and the way they keep in touch with the people that visit them or donate online.

“Thus we are always crossing private lands with owners approval, a chance that we have to interact with stakeholders and raise their awareness over the importance of our work. The participation of university students and international tourists always bring the attention and respect of the locals towards our work, and this helps our message to get through.”
Great way to include the local owners and educate them. The other side of the coin. Brilliant as well.

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Changemakers Featured Commentator
Brazil

Mon, 04/27/2009 - 18:54

Contd.

IMPROVEMENTS to your entry:
First, please include in your entry some of the comments you have already done to the other commentators here. There are several relevant comments you did but I didn’t find them on the entry itself. Remember the judges might have the same questions as we did.

On “Personal Bio" you said "Other advisory boards (?) I’m also environmental consultant for projects such as wildlife corridors and management plans” –> for whom? Please extend your comments so people can understand your other roles.

On “Describe some unique tourist experiences that your approach provides. Be specific; give illustrative examples” –> Give examples of what actually happen. Put the judges inside the experience, inside the jungle. I’m sure you have vivid experiences to tell us

On “Most beneficial partnerships would be with international tour operators” –> Agree. Have you talked to them? There are some adventure travel agencies (Intrepid Travel, Gap Adventures) that would love to put you on their itineraries in Brazil and Indonesia

On “With the information collected by participants we have also published relevant scientific articles in per-review scientific journals that will provide technical guidance for the conservation measures we have suggested” –> Mention some of the actual articles and where they were published so the judges and people in general can access them (a web link maybe?)

On “How is your initiative currently financed? If available, provide information on your finances and organization that could help others. Please list: Annual budget, annual revenue generated, size of part-time, full-time and volunteer staff” -> Are you running a deficit or surplus? What would be your target (in $)? It helps to understand your goals and the current gap your organization is facing.

Wish you the best!
Cheers,

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Changemakers Featured Commentator
Brazil

Sat, 05/02/2009 - 22:05

Dr. Marcelo,

A very interesting program indeed. Do you market your programs to the US? What are the flight times between NYC and LA to your state?

Your hands-on approach to your tour program seems to be something North Americans would enjoy.

Could you please explain more about how you feel your work is helping the local population?

Thanks